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	<title>Comments on: What&#8217;s in a name? SLA vs. ASKPro</title>
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		<title>By: Library Links &#124; SLA to ASKPro Name Change &#171; Book Mobilize</title>
		<link>http://libraryattack.com/?p=112&#038;cpage=1#comment-441</link>
		<dc:creator>Library Links &#124; SLA to ASKPro Name Change &#171; Book Mobilize</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] WHAT&#8217;S IN A NAME: SLA VS. ASKPRO at Library Attack [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tara</title>
		<link>http://libraryattack.com/?p=112&#038;cpage=1#comment-414</link>
		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also wonder what the Academic Division thinks.

&quot;Why would a business or chemistry librarian choose ASKPro over ALA/ACRL?&quot;

I think SLA offers more subject-specific content, as well as a different perspective from ALA. It&#039;s good to get ideas from outside the public/academic context. But AskPro just sounds SO corporate to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also wonder what the Academic Division thinks.</p>
<p>&#8220;Why would a business or chemistry librarian choose ASKPro over ALA/ACRL?&#8221;</p>
<p>I think SLA offers more subject-specific content, as well as a different perspective from ALA. It&#8217;s good to get ideas from outside the public/academic context. But AskPro just sounds SO corporate to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
		<link>http://libraryattack.com/?p=112&#038;cpage=1#comment-413</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 05:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kendra --

I&#039;m cynical by nature - so no offense is taken.   

In my current position, I selected my own title and choose Electronic Resources Librarian.   I put some thought into using the &quot;L&quot; word.  While there is much to be said about the word conveying a quaintness or being old-fashioned, in the end, I thought librarian conveyed the image of professional and personal service the job demanded.  
As to our association&#039;s name, I&#039;m not passionate about changing the name at all.   It&#039;s just a name, it&#039;s not me.  If anything, it should stress the individual over the institution because it&#039;s supposed to work for me, the member.  I really wish they would focus on more important things.. like making professional development more available or at least clarifying what they offer me.
In the end, a name is only a starting point; reputations are built on actions. 
 
Prunes or Dried Plums -- they are the same and are just as attractive if served plain on a paper plate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kendra &#8211;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m cynical by nature &#8211; so no offense is taken.   </p>
<p>In my current position, I selected my own title and choose Electronic Resources Librarian.   I put some thought into using the &#8220;L&#8221; word.  While there is much to be said about the word conveying a quaintness or being old-fashioned, in the end, I thought librarian conveyed the image of professional and personal service the job demanded.<br />
As to our association&#8217;s name, I&#8217;m not passionate about changing the name at all.   It&#8217;s just a name, it&#8217;s not me.  If anything, it should stress the individual over the institution because it&#8217;s supposed to work for me, the member.  I really wish they would focus on more important things.. like making professional development more available or at least clarifying what they offer me.<br />
In the end, a name is only a starting point; reputations are built on actions. </p>
<p>Prunes or Dried Plums &#8212; they are the same and are just as attractive if served plain on a paper plate.</p>
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		<title>By: Kendra</title>
		<link>http://libraryattack.com/?p=112&#038;cpage=1#comment-412</link>
		<dc:creator>Kendra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 04:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you all for the comments! I am looking for support for ASKPro from somebody other than board members or SLA leadership. ASSPro seems to be the running joke from SLA members and the library world in general, which isn&#039;t surprising I suppose.

Tara, I wonder what the Academic Division thinks about this. I know we were trying to find ways to lure more subject specialty librarians into the fold. Why would a business or chemistry librarian choose ASKPro over ALA/ACRL? 

Nancy, thank you for that insight. I was hoping I wasn&#039;t being overly cynical since I&#039;m not a corporate librarian. What would you want in a name?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you all for the comments! I am looking for support for ASKPro from somebody other than board members or SLA leadership. ASSPro seems to be the running joke from SLA members and the library world in general, which isn&#8217;t surprising I suppose.</p>
<p>Tara, I wonder what the Academic Division thinks about this. I know we were trying to find ways to lure more subject specialty librarians into the fold. Why would a business or chemistry librarian choose ASKPro over ALA/ACRL? </p>
<p>Nancy, thank you for that insight. I was hoping I wasn&#8217;t being overly cynical since I&#8217;m not a corporate librarian. What would you want in a name?</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
		<link>http://libraryattack.com/?p=112&#038;cpage=1#comment-411</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 02:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a corporate librarian, I think the new name will gemerate a lot of dumbfounded looks.  Not to mention the Seinfeld - Kramer allusions.

I think the main problem lies with how the SLA Association Professionals (AssnPros) view us.  They think spending energy on changing our name will make us earn more money -- if only it were that easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a corporate librarian, I think the new name will gemerate a lot of dumbfounded looks.  Not to mention the Seinfeld &#8211; Kramer allusions.</p>
<p>I think the main problem lies with how the SLA Association Professionals (AssnPros) view us.  They think spending energy on changing our name will make us earn more money &#8212; if only it were that easy.</p>
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		<title>By: Tara</title>
		<link>http://libraryattack.com/?p=112&#038;cpage=1#comment-410</link>
		<dc:creator>Tara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 00:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;From all of the testing, it’s clear SLA/ASKPro is targeting corporations and manager who might hire us, not the members, to the apparent exclusion of the members from academic institutions.&quot;

This concerns me the most. SLA (or at least parts of it) have been making an effort to retain and attract academic members. However, I can&#039;t see this name being attractive to anyone in an academic setting. Can you imagine telling a professor that you are a &quot;knowledge professional&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;From all of the testing, it’s clear SLA/ASKPro is targeting corporations and manager who might hire us, not the members, to the apparent exclusion of the members from academic institutions.&#8221;</p>
<p>This concerns me the most. SLA (or at least parts of it) have been making an effort to retain and attract academic members. However, I can&#8217;t see this name being attractive to anyone in an academic setting. Can you imagine telling a professor that you are a &#8220;knowledge professional&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul B.</title>
		<link>http://libraryattack.com/?p=112&#038;cpage=1#comment-409</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 00:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are the new generation Kendra.

How interesting that we&#039;re both at academic libraries, in collections actually designated as special collections, and I agree--a name change is fine, if the proposed name has any merit.

ASKPro does not.

Immediate problem: the consonants do indeed soften in speech to sound like a** + pro. Didn&#039;t anyone at SLA say this out loud, like, even once?

And yes, using a word like &quot;professional&quot; implies some Napoleon complex about not being a professional. &quot;Strategic&quot; in the name implies there&#039;s a sense that we&#039;re not all that strategic.

Where to from here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are the new generation Kendra.</p>
<p>How interesting that we&#8217;re both at academic libraries, in collections actually designated as special collections, and I agree&#8211;a name change is fine, if the proposed name has any merit.</p>
<p>ASKPro does not.</p>
<p>Immediate problem: the consonants do indeed soften in speech to sound like a** + pro. Didn&#8217;t anyone at SLA say this out loud, like, even once?</p>
<p>And yes, using a word like &#8220;professional&#8221; implies some Napoleon complex about not being a professional. &#8220;Strategic&#8221; in the name implies there&#8217;s a sense that we&#8217;re not all that strategic.</p>
<p>Where to from here?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://libraryattack.com/?p=112&#038;cpage=1#comment-408</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 00:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A similar vote took place in 2004 (when I was still an undergrad), and the members voted to change the name but rejected the proposed alternative...&quot; 

Thanks for that tidbit Kendra. I wonder how the vote will be structured this time. Will it allow for a similar outcome?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A similar vote took place in 2004 (when I was still an undergrad), and the members voted to change the name but rejected the proposed alternative&#8230;&#8221; </p>
<p>Thanks for that tidbit Kendra. I wonder how the vote will be structured this time. Will it allow for a similar outcome?</p>
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